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Limbesdautomne's avatar

Limbesdautomne

The genuine non-official official list is this one :

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/i+capolavori+-+the+4+and+5+star+italian+classics+according+to+the+morandini+dictionary/stefanaki/

And Italian cinema deserves more official lists, or at least more film with the official status thanks to new book & critics lists. All critic lists are Anglophone critics:
- Amos Vogel who? only known in English world, not translated in any other language.
- Halliwell's? who the fuck is John Walker? Certainly well known in Brit, not in my garden.
- David Thomson? not even translated in other language than in English. Brit, of course, this big country of cinema.
- Jonathan Rosenbaum? Yeah, great. He's like the Michel Ciment or the Jean Douchet US critic, right?
- Roger Ebert? Hum, Chicago... it's sound like a US city. A US critic, right?
- The best from the Times, from the Guardian, from TimeOut all these stuff are English sources, right?

And I don't even mention all (and good) thousands BFI lists.

English speakers are the only people who are able to critic films? More diverse sources please.

Save my life, guys, found us more diverse sources. Start with a list of critics, historians, magazines, institutions, web sites, from all over the world, which seem legit (for instance the French version of TimeOut magazine, it's not a legit source), and find out if there's some pertinent lists to add. I'm sure there's millions legit sources for Italian or Japanese cinema for instance, with domestic sources.
1 day 19 hours ago
erde's avatar

erde

Thank you for your hard work building and developing this site! It has contributed a great deal to my movie-watching these past few years, and I am really grateful for that. And thank you for the new official lists!
2 weeks 4 days ago
Ebbywebby's avatar

Ebbywebby

This controversy really bewilders me. If you're that furious about "wasting time" watching films that have now turned unofficial, you're not watching movies for the right reasons. And it's not as if the demoted lists aren't still available to work on.

You'd think ADDING new official lists would be the real controversy but, no, everyone just wants more and more official lists because every time there's a new set of adoptions, whee, it's like Christmas morning with a stocking full of new, happy-accident checks. And getting that temporary high is so much more important than the ongoing devaluing of what "official" status means.

Demote the They Shoot Zombies and 1000 Noir Films lists next. Literally hundreds of lousy films are official solely because of those two lists.
2 weeks 6 days ago
A Fire Within's avatar

A Fire Within

Removing official status from lists seems to be a rather controversial issue. I'm mostly just grateful to have this website, thanks for the new lists.
2 weeks 6 days ago
Toromash's avatar

Toromash

So many crybabies in this comment section. You should be grateful that some people are willing to use their time doing things that help ICM evolve. I see the same users complain about the same thing, and i understand the reason. But writing it 50 times is just rude, considering all the work that´s been done without gaining any money, and in the end, it´s just pathetic.
3 weeks ago
mathiasa's avatar

mathiasa

It would be great if there was a page somewhere (icm itself or on one of the forums) that would lay out the general rules for mods in regard to list adoption and, more importantly, list removal and list replacement.

Right now there seems to be substantial confusion about
the guidelines involved, even amongst the mods themselves.

This could maybe help avoiding frustrating and alienating some of us more dedicated users.
3 weeks ago
Blocho's avatar

Blocho

I have neither positive nor negative reaction to the changes. I just want to thank you for creating and maintaining a site that is a big part of my movie-watching life.
3 weeks ago
miramarco's avatar

miramarco

I don't think that “One Hundred Film and One Country, Italy” was a suitable choice for the official lists on the first place. It's a list of movies, predominantly by auteurs, produced in an arbitrary timeframe (1942-78), and only a couple of them can be considered “for the masses”. It claims that those movies are “essential to Italian cinema”, but those restrictions leave out a lot of movies that are valid representatives of the Italian movie production. The other Italian cinema list, “Il Grande Cinema Italiano”, offers a much better – but far from perfect – overview of the country's film history, even better than FilmTV's list.

(And I'm fine with making movie lists unofficial. Ticking off movies from lists is a fun side activity, but watching movies should be more than that. Official lists also serve a better purpose, i.e. guiding watchers through the history of cinema along a particular genre, country, or mindset: If we get better lists, I think it's okay to get rid of the old ones.)
3 weeks ago
Dark Pilgrim's avatar

Dark Pilgrim

Why would anyone be interested in voting, you guys do whatever you want anyway. It takes you about a year to add some half-descent lists and you remove one of the better ones. You guys need to realize that you're not curating the Louvre over here.
3 weeks ago
MovieDearest's avatar

MovieDearest

It's so nice to see that a list of "road movies" is considered more important then any of the lists for Academy Award winners.

You bemoan the lack of participation yet it has taken you MONTHS to come to this result of basically a mere 4 new lists. Why should anyone go to all the trouble in participating in this process when not even the #2 choice is made official??

It seems like a case of "too many cooks", and makes one question the motives and/or prejudices of whoever is making these decisions. Really, how hard is it?
3 weeks ago
nimimerkillinen's avatar

nimimerkillinen

Horrible decision taking lists away
3 weeks ago
Nopros's avatar

Nopros

This is fucked. I know users that are choosing to stop paying for ICM premium after this fucked up decision. Please stop removing good lists.
3 weeks ago
Cinephage's avatar

Cinephage

What's happy about checking films that can become unofficial at any given time ??
3 weeks ago
sol-'s avatar

sol-

Very happy to see the Best Documentary Oscar list perform so well in the poll. Hopefully it stands a chance of being considered for adoption in the future.
3 weeks ago
Armoreska's avatar

Armoreska

Not a fan of making lists unofficial when there's nothing wrong with them! =(
3 weeks ago

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