Killers of the Flower Moon (2023)

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   baraka92

   Where to start?! Greed, guilt, remourse, judgement, misoginy, race, spirituality, tradition. This is a dark and ugly story that doesn't end well, and worse it's forgotten. Scorsese, literally, comments on the way stories are told and consumed in the brilliant closing scene. Edit: Seriously! He doesn't break the fourth wall, he does something beyond that. A masterful way of exploiting the form to send a message. Some Godard or Welles level stuff.
   
   DiCaprio's Ernest feels close to The Irishman's Frank Sheeran. A simpleton man, destined to ruin the only meaningful relationship in his life by his own hand for the sake of other people; and near the end, when he's trying to "fix things" and save his soul, it's too late.
   BTW, Lily Gladstone was born to be in movies. She has "one of those faces".
   
   Scorsese, of course has explored similar themes and characters but at 80 he keeps mixing them with fresh elements to his style. There are echoes of Gaslight, Days of Heaven, Pontecorvo and Gavras.
   
   On the downside, I do think that out of his long movies this is the one that overstays its welcome the most. I could see at least 40 minutes cut without losing much, specially in the first half (after 2 hours I thought to myself "are Jesse Plemons and Brendan Fraser even in this thing?"). And, honestly, de Niro is good but I believe there were better actors suited for his two-faced role.
   
   Not an S-tier but quite close. Forget it; I think it might be.
   
   Add the hellish Dark Was the Night, Cold Was the Ground sequence to the hall of fame of Scorsese's music moments. 1 year 3 months ago
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   CodeV

   A depressive story about Osage Indian murders. Shows what money can do to people and how this affectes everyone around us. Acting is great, but overall it was too long experience into this darkness. 1 year 3 months ago
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   NevertrustGoogle

   While the film presents itself as partly a tale of the osage tribe, partly a film of the crimes committed by the whites, it's really a film about capitalism. Capitalism is the root cause of all the troubles and wrong doings committed in this film.

   De Niro's character reminds me a lot of Stringer Bell from the Wire. Strictly Business. He orders kills on various people that he knows very well, willing to even kill his own family members. A psychopath that knows only 1 rule - Money. DiCaprio's was very hard to digest, and were perhaps an even worse person than his uncle. It put me of guard, especially since the trailers for the movie indicated that he was a good guy, who loves his wife that were perhaps misguided by his ill uncle, and would eventually rebel against him. By the second act it became clear that he is as much of a psychopath as his uncle having no issue ordering kills on all of his wives sister's, therefore killing off her entire tribe and causing tremendous pain. Douchebag of the highest order, and was luckily punished together with the rest of the psychos. I'm still unclear if he had any motivation throughout this film, or if he was just an empty shell exciting in space and time. He talks about money and women, but throughout the film there is no indication that he has a drive and passion towards those things at all. His thoughts seems like a black cloud. In the end, their downfall was greed, and this is the generel theme of many of Scorsese's films

   . Overall, a great film, though it did overstay it's welcome. Could have been at least 45 minutes shorter. 1 year 3 months ago

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