Totally okay movie, and actually pretty similar to the book. A lot of the details were obviously not included (as always when a book is filmed), and for that reason I think it really helps knowing the story and characters from before, although my friend who had no idea what was going to happen understood most of the plot.
The story was basically the same and the plot holes from the book were still there, with some added ones. For example one thing that was never explained was why the factions are secluded from eachother, and especially why the initiates don't get to meet their families etc. Actually they're just kept in seclusion to get used to their new factions and they do get to meet their parents again after a few weeks. After that they get jobs and sometimes socialize with other factions, but mostly keep to themselves to "keep the peace". Things like that were really sketchy and if I hadn't read the books I don't think the faction system would make sense to me at all.
The ending was also changed, with the
simulation being shut off by Jeanine rather than IT knowledgeable Four/Tobias
and
them running away for seemingly no reason, whereas in the book they go to Amity to meet with the other Dauntless because their home quarters have been destroyed
.
The most annoying thing for me though was that almost all male characters looked exactly the same which constantly made me confuse Al with Will and Peter. I literally thought they were just one guy, then two, then at the end was shocked at finding out there was a third one.
damn those aeriyudite guys were DICKS, basically the slytherin of chicago world. the best thing about this movie was those dope ass train-jumps!! the movie could have used 2 or maybe even 3 more train-jump parts. after i saw this movie i went to the train station and jumped on a moving train, then i jumped OFF THe train onto a roof.
Very bad "scifi" for teens. Simplistic and conceited. Most of the script and the characters actions make no sense within the universe that is established and taken for granted. Clearly not thought through.
I was expecting this movie to be crap.. I haven't read the books, but the trailer just didn't appeal to me at all.. and Shailene Woodley well... we all know how she is. I was VERY surprised by this movie.. it was extremely well done in my opinion and Woodley actually did very well.. impressed ! :) I think I may read the books now..
Basic run down of plot... future Chicago is supposedly the last civilized place. To keep peace, people are seperated into 5 groups. You are born into one group but as a teenaged you take a test and choice another group of you want. A girl from one group tests inconclusive (Divergent). She has to hide this because people who dont fit in must be eliminated. She choices the police/army group and for the bulk of the movie it is her and her peers training. Later we find one group tries to kill and force over the leadership from another group.
For most of the movie it is a tame dystopian film for teenages. Blatantly for teens. Some of the dialogue actually feels like it is out of an afterschool special. But that's it's target audience so i wont berate it for that. I will however attack the overwhelmingly stupid plot holes.
Lets first assume a society like this could function (even though it's obvious it cant in a real world). One group creates mind control devices to implant in the Army/Police group. With this they invade the group currently in power. Why? Why not just implant the mind control in the other group? or in everyone? Why does the Army let this happen, aren't they suppose to keep peace between the groups? Why are they so adamant about keeping the groups of society away from each other. Hero girl is forbidden from seeing her family just because she is a different group. But throughout the movie we see the groups working together.
Obviously because hero girl is a Divergent, the mind control doesnt work on her and must save everyone. The movie feels a lot like Ender's Game mixed with anti-communism propaganda. It was just so in your face that conformity is wrong that i couldnt take any of it seriously.
SPOILER!!!
She wins by putting a mind control device in the villain character and forcing her to shut down the program. If someone with mind control device inside them listens to any command, they why not just tell them to stop? In the end she goes on the run for being different. Why??? she's a hero and just saved the entire city. Why would people still be after her when she took out the biggest antagonist to Divergents?
Acting stretched from bad to ok and the action sequences were clumsy. Music and set design weren't bad.
This movie was dumb. Good for a teenaged girl, but does nothing for someone who prefers thought put into a film
This YA blockbuster really has it all: Beyond moronic and unbelievable premise, mostly unlikable figures, cheap lines, bland look, sometimes atrocious soundtrack and of course the unmissable comparison to Hunger Games which it loses in almost every aspect.
I will be fair enough to admit that Shailene Woodley did a strong job and that the movie was alright by the second half when it moved on to more basic sci-fi dystopic action scenes (
on the basis of a ridiculous plot twist, of course
). Overall, the production values are alright, too, even if there is not a single exciting idea to be found.
Nothing wrong with "teenager sci-fi" - if it doesn't suck.
˝The future belongs to those who know where they belong.˝
˝Divergent¨.A movie everyone was eagerly looking forward to. A movie a lot of fuss was made about. A movie that was doomed to be a mega-success in the cinemas as ˝Guardians of the Galaxy˝. The only difference with the latter is that the film from Marvel really looks original and refreshing and also has an unique atmosphere. ˝Divergent ˝ is yet another adaptation of a youth book, written by the twenty-five-year-old Veronica Roth, of which one hopes it will make a heap of money just like ˝Twilight˝ and ˝The Hunger Games˝ did. And after wards the merchandising could exploit the youthful fans for years. Admittedly, I had a good feeling about this movie and was wondering how this film would turn out. That good feeling melted away like snow in the sun after roughly 45 minutes. I came to the conclusion that it was just another teen movie, with the same stale story lines and banal trivialities that would make an impression on a young naive public. In other words, again a fragile individual that eventually grows into a heroine and, surprisingly, saves society from being ruined. Sigh. That's indeed for once quite different and terribly innovative.
As I mentioned earlier, the first 45 minutes were fascinating. An explanation about the current situation with magnificent images of the ruins of Chicago. I was just wondering why they didn't renovate the existing buildings, since they could construct those ultra modern glass and iron buildings. Or were these half-streaked tower blocks the shelter for those who didn't belong to any class? Whatever. The description of the various factions was pictured nicely. It even went into a socio-political direction at one moment. But soon I couldn't prevent seeing comparison points with the other movies of youth books.
However, I fear to say everything that's been said before and I don't think I will reveal any new original angles. Indeed, the system of factions reasonable compares to that in ˝The Hunger Games˝. Katniss became a symbol of liberation and hope in ˝The Hunger Games˝. I suppose that role will also be played by Beatrice (I could be hopelessly wrong since I've never read the books). The ceremony can be compared with that from Harry Potter. The only thing they do not need to do is to put that old talking hat on their head. Just as Melanie, a rebellious teenager, in ˝The Host˝, Beatrice gets hopelessly entangled in a puppy love affair, as expected. Nevertheless there is one positive point. It's by far better than ˝Beautiful Creatures˝ and way better than ˝The Mortar Instruments˝. And if you want to look at a futuristic film, where there is a distinction between certain classes and also has a struggle for freedom, then I suggest you watch ˝Snowpiercer˝. But then however, this movie lacks a bit of real romance and the aggressive and violent level is a bit higher. So it's not for the faint romantic souls.
The initial phase where Tris is heading out with the jeering mob of Dauntless, climbing and balancing on bridges while wandering through town and jumping on hurtling trains and after wards jumping back on flat roofs (yes just getting on and off a train at a platform is not challenging for these daredevils) is still enjoyable. Even the tests that they have to endure and the mutual competition that arises is still acceptable. But in the end I thought it was a barbaric and cruel faction that throw out newbies, who ultimately have chosen for them, because they didn't pass the tests. The moment a slight chemistry develops between Four and Tris, it goes downhill for me and it becomes a little too predictable. The ˝Beverly Hills 90210˝ level was reached without any problem with the glitzy, handsome protagonists and feel-good moments. It won't be long and the merchandising machine will be on track and we are bombarded with all sorts of trinkets and gadgets. The next years will once again be filled with Barbie-like stuff, TV programs, PC Games and fashion statements that are related to ˝Divergent¨.
Shailene Woodley is perfect for this role and exudes a charisma and fragility. Her future as a teen idol is guaranteed. She will travel the trajectory as a rising star just like Jennifer Lawrence and Emma Watson did before her. We'll just wait and see if her future performances will be appreciated by moviegoers. Theo James has his looks and that will also guarantee a high melting level for all the the teenage girls looking at him and who will be floating home after wards. His toughness doesn't last long and before you know it he protects Tris as a real mother hen and winds up on the soggy and corny romantic path. Of all the companions of Tris the only one that I can remember is the role of Miles Teller as the terrible enervating Peter. When I look at his performance in ˝The Awkward Moment˝ I'm sure that the irritating quality is a personal trait. Kate Winslet managed again to come across as haughty and disdainful. For the rest it wasn't really an impressive role.
Ultimately ˝Divergent˝ is an adolescent story with a disappointing predictable plot. I suppose the sequel, like with ˝The Hunger Games˝, will be a middle film which will contribute even less. So I'm not going to bother to watch it. Despite the sometimes extremely professional elaborate action scenes, it all feels as fake as the applied tattoos.
These reviews here are terrible. The movie was actually good. The story was good. I would certainly recommend that people watch it, and ignore the pretentious reviews. You know a reviewer is bad when they speak about how the movie is for teenagers and how they like movies that make them think more. See it for yourself and decide on your own. I am personally glad I didn't come here before watching the movie.
#lastresort09 There are mostly not reviews, this are just impressions from the people, one have just to respect and like or not like, what the other people think about this or another movie. Actually nobody has to read this posts, including you. Probably you will never read my post and it's completly ok, I will never mind. My impression was this, after I've seen this movie: we are surrounded with very atractive, mostly young people. Then I was out and... woke up.
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jamesmcavoy
Totally okay movie, and actually pretty similar to the book. A lot of the details were obviously not included (as always when a book is filmed), and for that reason I think it really helps knowing the story and characters from before, although my friend who had no idea what was going to happen understood most of the plot.The story was basically the same and the plot holes from the book were still there, with some added ones. For example one thing that was never explained was why the factions are secluded from eachother, and especially why the initiates don't get to meet their families etc. Actually they're just kept in seclusion to get used to their new factions and they do get to meet their parents again after a few weeks. After that they get jobs and sometimes socialize with other factions, but mostly keep to themselves to "keep the peace". Things like that were really sketchy and if I hadn't read the books I don't think the faction system would make sense to me at all.
The ending was also changed, with the
The most annoying thing for me though was that almost all male characters looked exactly the same which constantly made me confuse Al with Will and Peter. I literally thought they were just one guy, then two, then at the end was shocked at finding out there was a third one.
Pratsy
damn those aeriyudite guys were DICKS, basically the slytherin of chicago world. the best thing about this movie was those dope ass train-jumps!! the movie could have used 2 or maybe even 3 more train-jump parts. after i saw this movie i went to the train station and jumped on a moving train, then i jumped OFF THe train onto a roof.overall good movie 6/10
BadFluffy
Very bad "scifi" for teens. Simplistic and conceited. Most of the script and the characters actions make no sense within the universe that is established and taken for granted. Clearly not thought through.demagogo
i was sure it was gonna be absolute trash and it waslefruit
I was expecting this movie to be crap.. I haven't read the books, but the trailer just didn't appeal to me at all.. and Shailene Woodley well... we all know how she is. I was VERY surprised by this movie.. it was extremely well done in my opinion and Woodley actually did very well.. impressed ! :) I think I may read the books now..nowhereman136
Basic run down of plot... future Chicago is supposedly the last civilized place. To keep peace, people are seperated into 5 groups. You are born into one group but as a teenaged you take a test and choice another group of you want. A girl from one group tests inconclusive (Divergent). She has to hide this because people who dont fit in must be eliminated. She choices the police/army group and for the bulk of the movie it is her and her peers training. Later we find one group tries to kill and force over the leadership from another group.For most of the movie it is a tame dystopian film for teenages. Blatantly for teens. Some of the dialogue actually feels like it is out of an afterschool special. But that's it's target audience so i wont berate it for that. I will however attack the overwhelmingly stupid plot holes.
Lets first assume a society like this could function (even though it's obvious it cant in a real world). One group creates mind control devices to implant in the Army/Police group. With this they invade the group currently in power. Why? Why not just implant the mind control in the other group? or in everyone? Why does the Army let this happen, aren't they suppose to keep peace between the groups? Why are they so adamant about keeping the groups of society away from each other. Hero girl is forbidden from seeing her family just because she is a different group. But throughout the movie we see the groups working together.
Obviously because hero girl is a Divergent, the mind control doesnt work on her and must save everyone. The movie feels a lot like Ender's Game mixed with anti-communism propaganda. It was just so in your face that conformity is wrong that i couldnt take any of it seriously.
SPOILER!!!
She wins by putting a mind control device in the villain character and forcing her to shut down the program. If someone with mind control device inside them listens to any command, they why not just tell them to stop? In the end she goes on the run for being different. Why??? she's a hero and just saved the entire city. Why would people still be after her when she took out the biggest antagonist to Divergents?
Acting stretched from bad to ok and the action sequences were clumsy. Music and set design weren't bad.
This movie was dumb. Good for a teenaged girl, but does nothing for someone who prefers thought put into a film
4/10
Torgo
This YA blockbuster really has it all: Beyond moronic and unbelievable premise, mostly unlikable figures, cheap lines, bland look, sometimes atrocious soundtrack and of course the unmissable comparison to Hunger Games which it loses in almost every aspect.I will be fair enough to admit that Shailene Woodley did a strong job and that the movie was alright by the second half when it moved on to more basic sci-fi dystopic action scenes (
Nothing wrong with "teenager sci-fi" - if it doesn't suck.
ikkegoemikke
˝The future belongs to those who know where they belong.˝˝Divergent¨.A movie everyone was eagerly looking forward to. A movie a lot of fuss was made about. A movie that was doomed to be a mega-success in the cinemas as ˝Guardians of the Galaxy˝. The only difference with the latter is that the film from Marvel really looks original and refreshing and also has an unique atmosphere. ˝Divergent ˝ is yet another adaptation of a youth book, written by the twenty-five-year-old Veronica Roth, of which one hopes it will make a heap of money just like ˝Twilight˝ and ˝The Hunger Games˝ did. And after wards the merchandising could exploit the youthful fans for years. Admittedly, I had a good feeling about this movie and was wondering how this film would turn out. That good feeling melted away like snow in the sun after roughly 45 minutes. I came to the conclusion that it was just another teen movie, with the same stale story lines and banal trivialities that would make an impression on a young naive public. In other words, again a fragile individual that eventually grows into a heroine and, surprisingly, saves society from being ruined. Sigh. That's indeed for once quite different and terribly innovative.
As I mentioned earlier, the first 45 minutes were fascinating. An explanation about the current situation with magnificent images of the ruins of Chicago. I was just wondering why they didn't renovate the existing buildings, since they could construct those ultra modern glass and iron buildings. Or were these half-streaked tower blocks the shelter for those who didn't belong to any class? Whatever. The description of the various factions was pictured nicely. It even went into a socio-political direction at one moment. But soon I couldn't prevent seeing comparison points with the other movies of youth books.
However, I fear to say everything that's been said before and I don't think I will reveal any new original angles. Indeed, the system of factions reasonable compares to that in ˝The Hunger Games˝. Katniss became a symbol of liberation and hope in ˝The Hunger Games˝. I suppose that role will also be played by Beatrice (I could be hopelessly wrong since I've never read the books). The ceremony can be compared with that from Harry Potter. The only thing they do not need to do is to put that old talking hat on their head. Just as Melanie, a rebellious teenager, in ˝The Host˝, Beatrice gets hopelessly entangled in a puppy love affair, as expected. Nevertheless there is one positive point. It's by far better than ˝Beautiful Creatures˝ and way better than ˝The Mortar Instruments˝. And if you want to look at a futuristic film, where there is a distinction between certain classes and also has a struggle for freedom, then I suggest you watch ˝Snowpiercer˝. But then however, this movie lacks a bit of real romance and the aggressive and violent level is a bit higher. So it's not for the faint romantic souls.
The initial phase where Tris is heading out with the jeering mob of Dauntless, climbing and balancing on bridges while wandering through town and jumping on hurtling trains and after wards jumping back on flat roofs (yes just getting on and off a train at a platform is not challenging for these daredevils) is still enjoyable. Even the tests that they have to endure and the mutual competition that arises is still acceptable. But in the end I thought it was a barbaric and cruel faction that throw out newbies, who ultimately have chosen for them, because they didn't pass the tests. The moment a slight chemistry develops between Four and Tris, it goes downhill for me and it becomes a little too predictable. The ˝Beverly Hills 90210˝ level was reached without any problem with the glitzy, handsome protagonists and feel-good moments. It won't be long and the merchandising machine will be on track and we are bombarded with all sorts of trinkets and gadgets. The next years will once again be filled with Barbie-like stuff, TV programs, PC Games and fashion statements that are related to ˝Divergent¨.
Shailene Woodley is perfect for this role and exudes a charisma and fragility. Her future as a teen idol is guaranteed. She will travel the trajectory as a rising star just like Jennifer Lawrence and Emma Watson did before her. We'll just wait and see if her future performances will be appreciated by moviegoers. Theo James has his looks and that will also guarantee a high melting level for all the the teenage girls looking at him and who will be floating home after wards. His toughness doesn't last long and before you know it he protects Tris as a real mother hen and winds up on the soggy and corny romantic path. Of all the companions of Tris the only one that I can remember is the role of Miles Teller as the terrible enervating Peter. When I look at his performance in ˝The Awkward Moment˝ I'm sure that the irritating quality is a personal trait. Kate Winslet managed again to come across as haughty and disdainful. For the rest it wasn't really an impressive role.
Ultimately ˝Divergent˝ is an adolescent story with a disappointing predictable plot. I suppose the sequel, like with ˝The Hunger Games˝, will be a middle film which will contribute even less. So I'm not going to bother to watch it. Despite the sometimes extremely professional elaborate action scenes, it all feels as fake as the applied tattoos.
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chunkylefunga
Average film.lastresort09
These reviews here are terrible. The movie was actually good. The story was good. I would certainly recommend that people watch it, and ignore the pretentious reviews. You know a reviewer is bad when they speak about how the movie is for teenagers and how they like movies that make them think more. See it for yourself and decide on your own. I am personally glad I didn't come here before watching the movie.jarmel
Yet another teenage movie...MrDoog
Childish nonsense.andype
#lastresort09 There are mostly not reviews, this are just impressions from the people, one have just to respect and like or not like, what the other people think about this or another movie. Actually nobody has to read this posts, including you. Probably you will never read my post and it's completly ok, I will never mind. My impression was this, after I've seen this movie: we are surrounded with very atractive, mostly young people. Then I was out and... woke up.Malena
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