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Sorry for the late response, I just made it public.
10 months 2 weeks ago
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This is the TV series.

The movie's iCM page is https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/shaun+the+sheep+movie/
1 year ago
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@MovieDearest: That's correct, it's the TV series. There's a note about Shaun the Sheep on the original list:

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Selected by Valerie LaPointe — not this feature film, but the animated television series from 2007.
1 year ago
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Bumming in Beijing is on IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5673218/
5 years ago
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The list is updated (thanks to joachimt).
6 years 5 months ago
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@Public Enemy: Mini-series are eligible for this list, but longer TV series aren't.
6 years 5 months ago
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I didn't notice that negatively-reviewed films are included. I'm not sure if anyone noticed, because no one mentioned it when we were discussing the list. Maybe the negatively-reviewed films should be removed from the list. I'll post about it on the forum to see what other people think.

Edit: It seems that people are against removing titles from the list, but maybe the list can be sorted by rating, with the ratings listed in the description.
6 years 7 months ago
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The action list ranked 4th (out of 218 nominated lists) in the previous "lists that should be official" poll, in which 96 people voted, so yes, there was a lot of interest.

How you decide whether a list is a "reference" or a "list of films to watch"? Doesn't it depend on the person? Different people use lists in different ways. The back cover says "250 key action movies," which can be interpreted as a list of films to watch.

At the time the list was adopted, we had only known about the list for 2 months, but since then I think a lot of people have become interested in watching the films on the list. It's on 75 watchlists right now.

I agree that MST3K and IMDb Bottom 100 shouldn't be official, but I don't agree that the reason applies to the action list.
6 years 7 months ago
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@swoon: Back in 2013, the Guys wanted to adopt an action list, and there was a forum thread to decide which list to adopt. 4 different lists were being considered, and almost everyone agreed that Action A-Z was the best choice and a fairly good representation of the genre. It might not be a perfect list, but it seems to be a list that a lot of action fans would be interested in working on. It's a bit low on martial arts films, but a martial arts list got adopted at the same time, so they complement each other.

I think it's a good idea to have both smaller lists and larger lists (as long as the larger list isn't too large). One would be an introduction to the genre, and the other would be for people who want to explore further. The Time Out Action list (which didn't exist in 2013) might be a good choice for a smaller official action list.

Number of new checks is indirectly a factor, since we try to fill voids, but I don't think it should be a requirement. If TSPDT wasn't official, then adopting it would only give us only 1 new check, but I think it clearly deserves official status.
6 years 7 months ago
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@xianjiro: We take into account several different factors to decide which lists to adopt:
1. Is it a good list?
2. Is it from an authoritative source?
3. Does the list fill a void (or does it complement an existing list)?
4. Is there a significant amount of interest in the list?

Not everyone agrees on what "official list" status should mean, but I think the goal is to have a collection of good authoritative lists for many different areas of cinema, to help people discover films to watch, and to have lists that appeal to all different types of film-watchers.

List quality is judged by both moderators and iCM members, and if possible we try to get opinions from multiple people who are knowledgeable about the country/genre/theme. We sometimes have forum discussions and polls to decide which is the best list for a particular genre or country. List size is also a factor.

Examples of "authoritative" sources would be critic polls, individual critics, books, large polls of non-critics, and popular websites.

Part of the focus is on filling voids (i.e. adopting lists for categories that don't have lists), but popular categories (e.g. French cinema and sci-fi) can get multiple lists. Some lists are incomplete representations of a certain type of film (e.g. Best Cartoons Ever and the old Italian list), so we thought the new lists would nicely complement those lists.

The "lists that should be official" poll will play a major role in deciding which lists will be adopted, but the moderators will make the final decision, so the lists won't necessarily be adopted in the exact order that they rank in the poll. Number of favorites on iCM is also a factor.

You won't be forced to vote for a limited number of lists. The way the poll works is you assign each list a rating from -1 to 4, so you can give every LGBT list a high rating, if you want. We might run smaller polls to narrow it down to 2 or 3 lists per genre, but it hasn't been decided yet.

Only 2 lists have ever been unadopted (and replaced with another list) due to lack of a good source: The old martial arts list and the old Spanish list. Individual country lists won't be replaced by region lists because people sometimes prefer to work on country lists, and sometimes country lists are better representations of a specific country. For example, we have both a Latin American list and a Brazilian list (and as I mentioned, we might have an Argentine list in the future).
6 years 7 months ago
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Namfoodle wrote:
Why is Disney's Aladdin on this list?

See the explanation on this page: http://www.filmsite.org/controversialfilms16.html
6 years 7 months ago
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@xianjiro: I don't think the gender or nationality of the moderators is the best way to measure diversity. We can still select lists that cover many different types of cinema, and we do try to consider the interests of all iCM users. We're running a poll (currently in the nomination phase) to find out what lists people are interested in, and everyone is welcome to participate (if you're not a member of the forum, you can PM your nominations to PeacefulAnarchy).

We just adopted a large list of Asian films, so I don't agree that the choices are Eurocentric. The Asian list includes ~20 Israeli films, and the 2 official Latin American lists include many Argentine films. There are 2 official African lists (Guide to African Cinema and FESCAPO), but if you know of another good African list, feel free to suggest one. The Arab list (DIFF) also includes a lot of African films from Egypt, Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia.

Israel, Argentina, and LGBT cinema will probably have their own official lists at some point in the future, but there are so many unrepresented countries, genres, and themes that it's impossible to cover everything at once. I hadn't heard of the Global Film Initiative, but it looks interesting, so I just nominated it for the poll.

There are many official lists that appeal to casual moviegoers. If you're hoping for lists that include films which are still in theaters, then I'm not sure which lists you have in mind, but we're open to suggestions. The IMDb lists are updated every few days and include new films. The box office list includes new films as well. The TSPDT 21st century list was recently expanded to a top 1000, so it includes a large number of new films, but it's only updated once a year. Award lists are also updated once a year. There are other lists of top-rated films (e.g. Douban and Kinopoisk), but it would be difficult to update those lists regularly, since they're not IMDb lists (the IMDb lists are updated automatically).
6 years 7 months ago
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Thanks to apronikoff and Sir Plebeian for adding the individual lists to iCM.
6 years 7 months ago
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Thanks to Melvelet for adding the list to IMDb:
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls053995125/
6 years 7 months ago
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@russa03: Threads is no longer listed as sci-fi on IMDb, but I haven't updated the list since then. I haven't seen it myself, but it seems to be a post-apocalyptic film, which is a common theme in sci-fi.
6 years 7 months ago
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+50 because otherwise films with 1 favorite and 1 check would have a 100% ratio and would be at the top of the list (and there are hundreds of those). It's same idea as the bayesian estimate formula that IMDb uses, except it's not weighted as strongly.

If you want to see a more popular version of this list based on a different formula, check out this list: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/icheckmovies+most+favorite+-+popular+version/mjf314/
6 years 8 months ago
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@Ebbywebby: This list is from April 2012. I just edited the description to mention that. I think the cutoff was either 20 or 30 checks (I can't remember). The list was complete at the time I made it and in ascending order. I'm not really interested in this list, so I doubt I'll update it again.

The easiest way to update the list would be to use the charts page to get the IMDb URLs of all official checks (I have a script to do this part for me), then create iCM lists, export, and sort by number of checks.
7 years ago
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Thanks to Melvelet for adding the list to IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls071566124/
7 years 1 month ago
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I just noticed that the film that I merged has the wrong check count. It says 1 check, but if I click the checks tab it shows 131 checks. Is that a bug or will it get updated automatically in a few days?
7 years 3 months ago
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Does the duplicate-remover check to make sure that the correct movie was marked as a duplicate (since there's no guarantee that users will mark the correct one)? I remember several times in the past, the actual movie was merged into the duplicate, and then the actual movie was added to iCM, so there was a duplicate again. The actual movie should be the one with the correct IMDb link (not necessarily the one that has more checks), and the duplicate movie should be the one with an IMDb link that redirects.

Another question: What happens if you favorite a movie but dislike the duplicate? Which one gets preserved? (I'm not expecting people to do this, but I'm curious to know what would happen)

Edit: I just merged these:
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/lsd+insight+or+insanityquestion-1967/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/lsd+insight+or+insanityquestion-1967-1/

The correct IMDb link got preserved, but now there's a -1 at the end of the URL. Maybe you should set it to preserve the one without the -1 (but I guess it's not really important).
7 years 3 months ago

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